Florida made a significant impression on four-star defensive lineman Charles Moore over the weekend.
The 6-foot-4, 240-pounder out of Louisville, Mississippi, took an official visit to Florida over the weekend after backing off a 16-month pledge to Mississippi State.
But Moore was adamant the coaching staff isn’t the reason he’s seriously considering the Gators after just one visit.
“It was great. I enjoyed being around the guys. Defensive linemen (Kyree) and TJ (Slaton hosted me),” Moore said. “From a grades-standpoint and what they can do for me outside of football is what I liked the most.
“It’s not really, like, the coaches, because coaches can leave at any moment. It’s been more of what they can offer me.”
Yet a few familiar faces certainly helped, considering Saturday marked Moore’s first trip to Gainesville.
“They did play kind of a big factor into it, that I’m familiar with the people here,” Moore said. “As people, I mean, I haven’t been around them, but from me talking to them, they’re good coaches. They’re focused on, it’s football, yeah they want me to be great at football, but they’re focused on me as a person, too, do I fit as a person? This is somewhere I could see myself, say if I had a career-ending injury, Lord forbid, but this is a place I could see myself getting a job.”
Aside from setting him up for the future, the Gators coaching staff also stressed the lack of depth along the defensive line. With four defensive linemen departing from the 2018 team, UF hasn’t shied away from emphasizing the opportunities available for prospects. However, it isn’t the most significant factor for Moore — for good reason.
“That’s kind of a big deal, but I ain’t really too big on that,” Moore said. “‘Cause I don’t care what they want me to do. If they want me to redshirt, that’s cool, too. I like the place.”
Moore apparently liked his inaugural visit to Gainesville enough to knock Florida State out of his top-3 choices.
“We’ve got to take Florida State out now. Auburn, Tennessee, Florida. Can I go Florida, Auburn, Tennessee?,” Moore said, reiterating the Gators are his new leader.
With a life-changing decision ahead of him on Signing Day on Feb. 6, Moore apparently has even more to think about after a monumental visit to Florida shuffled his primary landing spots.
“Just not even from a football-standpoint, but how they’re going to help me off the field,” Moore said. “In the classroom, with job opportunities. It’s deep here. Just getting a degree from here, it will take me a long way. That Florida brand is so big, it’s almost like having a degree from Yale or Harvard or something.”
Praying that Charles Moore chooses Florida, as this will be his best fit. What an addition he will be to the Gator “D”. He will receive a superior education if he chooses UF over UT or Auburn (not knocking them, but UF is the one of the best public universities in the south, and ranks highly in the nation, while neither UT or Auburn has such a high ranking. Moore would complete our defense and help raise its performance to one of the best in the SEC and nationally. GO GATORS!!!
What’s wrong with prayer bro?
I had the same reaction, Carlton. Praying that a recruit signs with UF. Pretty heavy.
Thoughts and prayers.
Not any heavier than praying that God gives you a Mercedes Benz, just because your friends all drive Porches and you must make amends.
I used to pray for the Gators all the time, before Ray Graves passed away. Since then, I just figure He’s getting all the good football advice He needs.
Things are looking very good with Elam at this point, so really DL is the only weak link missing in the 2019 class which makes Moore or Pickering key recruits to round out this class. I guess if we don’t get either one, we could still comb the juco and transfer markets also. Greenard was a huge get as a pass rush specialist, but we REALLY need at least one more big nasty on the interior D line IMO to make this class not only highly ranked, but filling out all of our needs..
In an era when so many elite athletes are focused almost exclusively on making it to the pros in their sport, one has to admire this young man’s broader outlook and interest in the academic implications of choosing a university. From that perspective, UF is far above either UT or AU. He sounds like someone who would be a perfect fit in Gainesville.
Who leaves off the 85 NCAA roster limit that is full of the 85 right now for Florida? The UF staff had, what, 7 or 8 recruits in this weekend and no spots currently open on the roster? What do the coaches do, over sign and then ask some current players to leave the program? How does that work? And how will that impact team moral? I would guess some players have already informed Mullen that they are leaving, or Mullen has informed them that they will be leaving (and no announcements have been made), but those current players are going to finish this session of school on scholarship before making announcements about transferring or just leaving football. And I guess it also depends on how many more players they sign. Sign none and does everyone on the current roster stay? Man, confusing deal and a likely hard thing to manage for the coaches and recruiting staff. But those being recruited can count up to 85 and ask roster questions, I guess.
Swampy – I read an article on here that stated something to the effect that a certain amount of early enrollees can be placed on last years class to make extra room. I believe that I read that we have room for 6 players to sign on Feb. 2nd. I stated on an earlier post that we would be turning players away because of the result CDM has produced. I also stated that I thought we might have 3 – 4 1st round picks that we may lose this year, and it looks as though I may be right there as well. I watch a lot of football and have over the years, so it becomes easier to project what might happen. And if I am wrong, well it is just an estimate of what might happen. I have gotten much better over the years…lol. GO GATORS!!!
Gator Ed. No Power 5 or 6 conference team can have over 85 players on a roster at any given time, regardless of how many a team signs to any given class or counts signees back to the previous year. Florida currently has 85 players on or committed to their roster (those players still on the team from this year, the recruits who signed early, and the recruits who are currently committed to Florida), and that includes taking into account the players who have already transferred (Green), the seniors who have exhausted their eligibility, and the juniors (Scarlett, Taylor, CJG, and Polite) who left early for the NFL. So if Black qualifies to enter UF, Henderson also qualifies and does not flip to another program again, Florida cannot sign another recruit unless some current players either transfer or their scholarships are pulled for a new recruit to sign and join the roster. It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds before the first Wednesday in February, and it will be a good storyline to follow until then.
Swampy – thanx for the 411. I was going strictly on what I read on this site. Maybe it was written at a time when the writer expected more juniors to declare for the NFL, I can’t say for sure. Regardless we will find out in February and it is already an exciting season. We can only wait and watch what next year brings. GO GATORS!!!
Hey Ed — got it, and hillarious! My ability to reply is compromised somehow, more later when it’s fixed. Thanks bud.
6 – the story went longer than I expected and I left out some parts. See how that happens when you are the only one missing a class because you were actually working…LOL. I will write more later. GO GATORS!!!
Swampy – One of most unpleasant and least discussed aspects of college athletics is the administration of scholarships. They are renewed annually and no player is guaranteed of having his renewed. The 85 scholarship roster limit is not applied by the NCAA until opening day. The coaching staff has until then to sort out which 85 players actually end up on scholarship.
Attrition begins with the new recruits. Some commits (like Henderson?) won’t end up signing a LOI with the Gators. Others (like Black?) won’t qualify academically. Medical hardships (like Nick Smith) won’t count against the 85 scholarship limit. Red shirt seniors who end up burried in the depth chart after spring are “encouraged” to graduate in May and pursue their last year of eligibility elsewhere.
If after all that, the Gators still have more than 85 scholarship eligible players remaining on the roster, CDM will have an unpleasant conversation with as many current players burried in the depth chart as necessary to “encourage” them to seek a transfer to another school. Those conversations usually happen right after spring practice.
The end result of all that is 85 scholarship players on the roster going into fall practice. Until then, the situation may remain unsettled.
I’m confused, StL — not with the 85 limit, but rather when it applies and the rule is in effect. You say the staff has until opening day, nominally 01 Sep, to pare it down to the limit. Others say at any given time and the staff only has until the players actually enroll in school, nominally 01 Jan to Jun. Which is it? Or am I misreading the entire thing and they are both true?
As I understand it 6, the NCAA allows each school no more than 85 scholarship players on the roster just from beginning to end of the fall semester. Those are the 85 players that MUST be enrolled and attending classes in order to be eligible to play in games during the 2019 football season. There can also be as many walk-ons on the roster as the team wants to carry, so long as those players receive zero athletic financial aid during fall semester.
It’s understood that the period between the end of the bowl game and Summer B semester is a transitional period where there may be overlap and possibly more than 85 players on scholarship attending classes. During that period, 2018 scholarship seniors (and juniors going to the NFL) are wrapping up their spring and summer classes, while 2019 scholarship freshmen are beginning their spring and summer classes. Since there are no real football games being played, the NCAA doesn’t enforce the 85 scholarship roster limit during this time period.
Hope that helps.
Roger — tango yankee!
Swampy, your point is a variation of the bobby dodd argument, which resulted in Georgia Tech and Tulane leaving the conference. People argue it was the worst thing to ever happen to Georgia Tech. Dodd did follow through to lead to the ncaa limiting scholarships (to stop the incentive for this type of thing) for all teams to reduce this tactic alabama etc. all used to one extent or another.
is there a lesson for today, maybe, the economics of the game matter. And i agree with Bobby Dodd, you do owe something to the system that gets kids to be ready for the elite level, and if they know they can be left without anything for their efforts, im sure the game would be worse off. its not the best chapter in SEC history, that and of course some other issues going on at the time not in the scope of this discussion that Dodd was also on the right side of as well.
SltGator. A Division 1 football program cannot legally (by NCAA compliance rules) have more than 85 players on scholarship at any time. But players do not go on scholarship when they sign letters of intent. That begins when a recruit or recruits enroll at a school. So Mullen and players will have time between now and this June to make moves to get down to 85 players. Florida will be able to sign up to 28 players, but three of those players, if they do sign 28, will have to count back to last year’s recruiting numbers. Not sure what those numbers were and are. But, obviously, there will be multiple players currently on the Florida roster that will not be on the roster when fall practice begins, and likely not on it when spring practice begins.
I would be interested if anyone has the info on past years , when we signed more than 85(how often has that happened) and what and who ultimately left, got kicked to the curb, etc.. It would be interesting to hear the same info on a team like Ga. or Al..
Yes, Daz, that would be interesting to know. Interesting conversation topic, Swampy. Thanks for bringing it up. It does seem like kind of a good problem to have- seems like we are on the uptick recruiting. It is exactly what I said before the season started- good play on the field recruits itself. Then more and better players coming in contributed to even better playing on the field, which then contributes to even better recruiting. I mean, it if I was a high level player gunning for championships and the NFL, having a gold plated indoor training facility and naked cheerleaders would not have motivated me to want to play on the Gator offenses of the previous 8 years. And during that time if Nick Saban was coaching out of a barn, I would still want to play for him for obvious reasons. Exciting times for Gators on the rise again.
A side note regarding Saban and Bama- I wonder how they recover next season after the Clemson loss. He really didn’t do a great job coaching that game. He is one of, if not the greatest coach ever, but I wonder when he hits peak and starts to slip and decline. That time comes for everyone. It is another thing for young recruits to consider- who is on the rise, who is at peak, who is starting to fall.
Patrick you’d at least have to look if the cheerleader unis were. but you’re right any player wanting future would move on under the last eight years. I’m calling them the “lost years”. Now it is different. Here’s another thing I mentioned before. While facilities are a flashy marketing tool coaching or great coaching can overcome that at least for awhile. We saw a downtrodden bunch of talent make a huge turn in one year with fishing being the key. Add some flash with new facilities on the horizon to catch they eye of the recruits and the skies the limit.
As for peaking, plateud, declining? I don’t think he has hit the later but the middle for sure. We had only one way to go and still have a lot of room to climb.
Something i don’t believe anyone mentioned yet as to roster issues. We have quite a few listed s athletes and a few others that likely will be asked to play another position to fill out any gaps. Not ideal but. Regardless isn’t it great going into the new year with a brighter outlook?
Yes, it is great fun again.
Swampy, see my response to 6 above. My understanding is that a player is only a player when he’s available to play in a game. The 85 scholarship roster limit is only strictly enforced by the NCAA during the entire fall semester and subsequent conference championship and bowl seasons.
There is another NCAA rule that a school may sign no more than 25 recruits to scholarships in any recruiting class. Since the Gators only signed 20 recruits in 2018 and a couple enrolled early and counted against the 2017 class, they have room under this rule to count 7 December signees against the 2018 class. This allows them to sign more than 25 total commits by February 6th.
That gets us to the SEC rule that limits the total number of signees in any recruiting class to 27. This is a hard limit that doesn’t allow back counting against the prior year. So, this may end up being the limit of the Gators’ recruiting class when all the signed LOIs are counted on February 6th. Since 21 signed LOIs in December, the Gators may sign 6 more in February.
BTW, since verbal commitments are not binding on either the players nor the schools, a school may have as many of those as wish to verbally commit. Alabama currently has 28 verbals, but only 24 signed early LOIs. They only have room for 3 more players to sign an LOI in February.
Hope this helps.
Correction: The Gators had 4 (not 2) early signees in the 2018 recruiting class count against the 2017 class. That allowed them to count 9 (not 7) early signees this December to count against the 2018 recruiting class and enroll early to participate in spring practice.
If this kid likes raising cattle, buying land, getting into sports management, hot weather, academics, great all around sports and the opportunity to play football at one of the hottest, if not the hottest, team in the country, then I think he already made his choice. Maybe this is his way of nicely letting Auburn know the lucky slot machine in Montgomery doesn’t compare to a diploma from Florida. And he can’t be too blunt about not going to Tennessee this early in January: someone over there might get medieval on on a herd of donkeys.
Like I always said, MKF, Tennessee is the wrong place to be a donkey ANY time of the year! Or, I suppose, even a large farm animal as 65 suggests.