It has been awhile since The Back Nine has been with you and it’s a day late this week because of Christmas. I hope your day was as good as mine.
10. Dan Mullen has been working feverishly on trying to supplement a depleted roster and it’s going to take time. Not just this year, but in the coming years. Because we still aren’t sure who may or may not be going pro early and how many (Antonio Callway is turning pro) of the Knucklehead Nine could be returning if they get through the student conduct court, it’s hard to put a number on how many scholarship players Florida will have next year. Just be certain of this — it won’t be anywhere near the 85 maximum unless there are a lot of walk-ons put on schollie. Everybody wants to talk about the quarterback situation and with good reason, but one of the biggest issues Mullen inherits is at wide receiver. Quick, name the top three catches by a Gator receiver in 2017. Waiting. Waiting. The truth is that receiver was a position where I felt Florida had the biggest difference in what it was supposed to be and what it turned out to be. Maybe the two transfers will help and maybe Mullen can pull off some coups in the late signing class. But more than anything, the guys he has on this team right now need to get stronger. Going up and making a tough catch so often comes down to hand strength. And the stronger you are, the easier it is to separate from a defender. Callaway’s annual screw-up was only part of the reason Florida might have been the 14th best receiving group in the SEC after you evaluate the whole season. These guys need some coaching and they really need a real weight training program.
11. Gator fans enjoyed the heck out of Eddy Pineiro’s time here. He was a fan favorite with the chants, the No. 15 jersey and leaves UF as its most accurate field goal kicker ever. But it is still an interesting legacy, because Pineiro rarely missed, but was also rarely put in position to make a game-winning kick. The closest to it were probably the two he kicked (from 26 and 34 yards) in the final 4:37 of the 16-10 win over LSU last year. Again, it’s not his fault that the opportunities didn’t come up and if they had everyone in the Gator Nation would have felt pretty good about the possibility of him making them. But here is something to consider — Pineiro was so good he probably hamstrung the Gator offense. You saw the play-calling once they got inside the 40. Don’t get me wrong, he was a special kicker and the fact that they never let him try a 60-something yarder at the end of a half is still bewildering. Florida will certainly miss him and after watching the NFL this weekend, he may be able to overcome the Roberto Aguayo jinx and be selected higher than normal for a kicker.
12. Which brings me to this point, the kind of thing you think about when you spend a lot of time with ice on your knee. How is the NFL so bad at quarterback and place-kicker? This is the cream of the crop, right. There are 32 kickers and 32 starting quarterbacks and that’s the best you can give us? I know injuries have played a big part in the quarterback play, but it is still amazing that there are not 64 talented, functional quarterbacks in a country of more than 300 million people. Mind boggling. That said, I’m excited for the NFL playoffs and I have jumped back on board with the Rams. I was a Rams fan as a kid and through the early part of my adult life, but when they moved to St. Louis I dumped them. But they’re back and I’m back. The Rams long-sleeved T-shirt Kelsey gave me for Christmas will be in the main rotation.
13. I don’t have the answer, although I know some people that Mike White could put on the floor as the fifth starter who could help. The guy sitting next to you on the airplane when you just want to sleep, the lady on the hands-free device next to you on the elliptical, the person who doesn’t get it as you are trying to walk away that you have somewhere to be in five minutes but you haven’t heard everything about his fantasy team yet. You know, people who like to talk. Florida, instead, is the “Quietest Team in America.” On the Friday broadcast, the announcers purposely quit talking to see if you could hear a peep out of the Gators on defense. It’s kind of an imperfect storm in that UF has so many laid-back personalities and no matter how much White hammers at the players to communicate, it doesn’t look like it will happen this season. We’ll see and we will also see if John Egbunu’s return gives the Gators the interior defense that has been lacking. All we know for sure is that UF did not get out of its pre-conference schedule the kind of numbers it hoped for. The RPI is at 80, but the league is so much better that there is a bigger-than-usual chance to get healthy. Of the 18 conference games Florida has starting Saturday, 14 of the opponents have top 58 RPI and nine in the top 30. (It doesn’t help that Baylor, Florida’s lone non-conference opponent remaining, is at 151). Remember, too, that the selection committee this year is putting more weight on wins away from home this season and there are plenty of opportunities there to help the resume.
14. Any time you are in a tournament, it flies by so fast you don’t have a chance to enjoy the wins. And because they always end in a loss for all but one team, time stops so suddenly it makes you lurch forward. Now, Mary Wise can look back at what her volleyball team accomplished and smile. “It was a terrific run, not only in the tournament but the whole season,” Wise told The Back Nine. “This team embraced the moment. But the tournament is a sprint so you don’t get to celebrate the wins.” It was an incredible season for Wise and her team and created a lot of volleyball fans in the Gator Nation. Everyone wanted it for Wise, who is such an asset to this community and one heckuva great coach. But it was certainly not good luck to have to face a huge disadvantage in the stands against Nebraska. “Nebraska played at a high level,” Wise said. “But 17,000 in the stands didn’t hurt.”
15. Maybe it’s just me and maybe it is only because I have watched every bowl game because of my knee replacement surgery, but it has been a big dud so far. Perhaps it will start to get interesting today with Florida State playing and the SEC (Missouri) getting involved. It seems like it has been forever since we knew who was playing in the College Football Playoff and there really isn’t much that any talking head can offer that is going to change the way you feel. But it doesn’t seem to have the same buzz as it has the past three years and I think a lot of that is because it’s such a regional tournament this year. It will be interesting to see if that shows up in the ratings.
16. Some housekeeping — the next Dooley Noted Podcast will be up on Jan. 2 and I will be back on radio the same day. Let’s all have a great 2018, not that 2017 wasn’t a lot of fun. Look for my year-end story later this week. There, have I plugged enough things?
17. I haven’t spent a lot of time on Twitter during the last 2½ weeks for a lot of reasons. But it’s part of the job so I am back in and saw this one from Rams running back Todd Gurley, who I think should be the NFL MVP this season — “Fantasy owners you’re welcome now leave us alone. Merry Christmas!” I don’t play Fantasy Football anymore, but I have to think a guy who scored 19 touchdowns and has over 2,000 total yards made a lot of teams contenders this season.
18. Unfortunately, it’s still going to be awhile before I can get into the gym, but that doesn’t mean I can’t come up with a strong playlist. Try this one:
• “Cut Yr Teeth” by Kississippi.
• “Really Wanted You” by The Shelters.
• “Foolish Thing” by Darren Criss.
• “Fireworks” by First Aid Kit.
• And for an oldie, “Go All The Way” by the Raspberries.
Contact Pat Dooley at 352-374-5053 or at firstname.lastname@example.org. And follow at Twitter.com/Pat_Dooley.
Pat Dooley, you covering for Jeremy foley who caused all of this are a big part of the blame. Your stupid “back nine” should’ve started with how awesome a job Mullen has done one month on the job , landing Emory Jones and signing the two best transferring receivers out there as well as his current WR targets for the regular signing day. Also your pathetic commentary throwing current receiving core under the bus , 1. Tyrie Cleveland 2. Toney 3. Dre Massey I believe to be three very talented young receivers who were drastically under/misused last year. This Christmas I took the time to go google you and foley in relation to dan Mullen and stumbled upon several podcasts featuring you going off on not liking Mullen, how no one liked him when he was our great OC from 2005-2008 one of the best best runs in gator football. “Aloof” look top football coaches tend to come off as difficult to work with and that doesn’t matter the goal isn’t to make worthless bureaucrats and women’s sports coaches feel appreciated or for you worthless ppl in the press , it’s about winning as many football titles as we can. You didn’t like chip Kelly either , if we had let Pat Dooley pick the coach we’d now have charlie strong a guy who couldn’t even make a bowl game at Texas one of the easiest jobs in the country . In addition I want to throw out there the recent reporting done by Andy Staples regarding our lack of strength and conditioning in the offseason , how players were paying their own way with a x Olympian who got arrested on deprecate occasions for PEDs, other street drug usage, and check writing / money laundering fraud ….. let that sink in , thinking about the off field issues during the jim Mac era that is especially extra alarming. Also in how you helped cover for foley giving muschamp a extra year because “he was such a nice guy everyone liked him”…. wow when did Florida gator football become the Boy Scouts pat????? Thank god we finally got dan Mullen , sadly 7 years too late with damage already done. I hope to never see a gator offense in a pro style offense ever again , only in the spread and I hope we never get another incompetent AD like foley again who destroyed our great program set our facilities back a decade and have a ap dog beat writer like you covering for them.
Yikes! That was one scary read thecaw.
So you’re one of Pat’s biggest fans, huh? Not that I agree c you in part or in parcel, Caw, but I think your writing and impact would greatly improve if you stopped holding back on your feelings and just let it all out once in a while.
Glad we know where your heart is, though. Go Gators.
While I am not angry at those referenced, there is some truth in your speak. DM will not be the savior, but he is the answer right now and he should be welcomed into the Fightin’ Florida Gator Country! Welcome DM! Proud you are Head Gator!
Don’t sugarcoat it Caw!! Don’t know if all that’s true but you make some interesting points, especially concerning Foley. Stranger Things have been coming out of Gainesville for years now with no apparent attempt to explain them with this year the pinnacle of weirdness. Would love to see a long term game plan and some consistency for the Gator players, coaches and long suffering fans.
Pat: Welcome back. Hope the knee heels quickly. I’m sure you wish you could inject some 10W-40. Stop watching NFL, it will only depress you from the boring play, etc. The bowl story will be Bama blasting back with two convincing wins, sinking the ESPN libs emotions, and propelling Saban to a $100 million/billion job with the NY Giants (Coach and Manager).
Suggested new year resolutions: (1) Do not mention Musschamp in Gator Nation again; (2) Maybe it was part of your job to support Foley, but the ticket office manager is gone, no need to mention him either.
And furthermore, Pat, do not mention Muschamp in Gator Nation again!
Is that all? Get it all out man. Don’t hold back.
I never liked Fooly either but I like Pat, he’s funny.
My biggest issue with pat is he gave muschump every break and excuse you can think of should’ve never been brought back for a 4th year but also that he has given the excuse for the mac hire as being “there were not many good candidates out there ” that’s absurd in addition to Mullen who we just got coming off his best yr at state there was Tom Herman who under Meyer just led Ohio state to a NC using 3 qbs in the last 4 games , winning on 3rd string now at Texas with #3 recruiting class there was also James franklin who did a phenomenal job at Vanderbilt and has since now worked wonders for penn state after the NCAA left that program to be dead in the water for at least a decade there are several others but not worth going into. Point is dooley has been peddling this bold face lie around for years , in addition to not liking Mullen for the dumbest of reasons “he just stayed to himself while being OC at Florida ” btw staying to himself abd rolling out the nations top offense 2 years in a row causing no trouble I mean OMG he wasn’t at the women’s field hockey game every Tuesday night waiving Pom Pom with foley omg not a team player ! Bad fit ! He rather stay in and work on a offensive gameplan and chill with his family I mean he was such a monster during his time here 2005-2008. In addition dooley hated chip Kelly and openly endorsed charlie strong to take over forget his epic failure at Texas , this program needs a spread offensive specialist in the worst way not a defensive coach approaching 60 yr old. Sorry but I for one am tired of this nonsense we have been fed the past 7 years, encourage some fans to open their eyes more
Dude, your fingers are hyperventilating. Put some periods and paragraph breaks in between deep breaths.
Wow, sounds like someone got coal in their stocking this year and it was evidently from Dooley! I do however agree with some of the things said here especially about the spread offense. I hope that Thecaw and Dooley and the Gator Nation in general will give Mullen time to clean up the mess. Didn’t always agree with Dooley, Foley, Meyer, Muschamp, Mac or even Spurrier. However, I’m not the coach or the AD so I don’t get to decide. Now that the selection has been made I look forward to watching our progress with coach Mullen no matter who agreed or disagreed with the hire. GO GATORS!
That was harsh but Pat really should hold Foley more accountable. By not doing so, it lessons the believability of other things he writes and says. Foley not only did an extremely poor job picking coaches but let our facilities fall behind. You can’t “not want to play in that game” when all your competitors are. Florida is not some small Ivy League school where all the little sports matter, Football is what brings in the revenue, fan support, school pride, etc. it’s success is critical and Foley clearly failed here. It’s time for Pat to write that article criticizing the source of the problems, friendships should not affect the media narrative.
Since when does the local “sports columnist” give the head football coach “one more year”? Pat is entitled to his opinion, the same as all of us. For all the Foley bashers, please tell me another University that has perfect record at hiring football coaches. And while you’re at it, let’s compare that schools overall athletic program. Go Gators!…and not just in one sport 🙂
Thanks for the nice words about Mary Wise. I am totally biased, but she has to be the best coach anywhere who hasn’t won a National Championship. Her teams year in/year out excellence should be loudly celebrated. The day will come when MW brings home the big hardware.
Sorry you got the wrath this morning, Pat. Welcome back. I look forward to your “Back Nine” every Tuesday. As for Foley, no, he was not perfect, and no one even comes close to such a level. He presided over what has become the best all-round athletic program in college sports while also perhaps the most compliant. He did an amazing job. Scott Stricklin can and likely will offset the deficiencies in facilities and other capital investments. But the firm foundation came from Foley re: Team Florida and ethics befitting the ninth-rated public university in the nation.
How about for 2018 more objective and realistic analysis of: (1) each game, (2) the state of the football program, and (3) actual performance of coaches and players. In turn, how about fewer: (1) articles attempting to repair the image of failed Gator coaches and the former AD; (2) articles establishing unrealistic expectations; (3) articles filled with quotations from coaches (press conferences available online); and (4) catchphrases (knucklehead nine, 3 star recruiter).
Thank you mark , you clearly are one of the fans that gets it. Dooley has digressed so much as a writer to where this year every article was a puff piece editorial attempting to get fans to sympathize with his hero x AD Jeremy foley , the narrative had been prior to muschump and reinforced by the jim mac hire that he was the greatest AD of all time, a theory which I thought was a bit delusional to begin with considering he inherited a great situation being given Steve spurrier and let’s not forget that UF as a university and geography is going to pull in a lot of Olympic sport stars regardless of the AD. After our past University president made him go hire urban Meyer who he was familiar with during his time as chancellor of Utah ; he tweaked and is now coaching somewhere else just like spurrier left and went to coach elsewhere which btw spurrier left after foley refused to back him after that fsu thug Derrall Docket destroyed our 2001 nc chances when also thug and known dirty fsu D.C. Mickey Andrews instructed him to stomp on earnest grahams hand dead ball with game well in hand before our big showdown with tennesee. In fact foley supporters first counter is Billy donavan who btw, constantly butted heads with him over facility upgrades and having a gym very outdated and way behind the dukes bucs and Kentucky , Billy won two sadly he won so much with so much less if only we made the investments he suggested sooner we prob would’ve won 5 or 6 and he’d still be here . Helped Ran Meyer off also , foley was a control freak with office next door to the head football coach constantly barged into offices routinely, it all became so much about him. Honestly I have no idea who the Alabama AD is or very many other ADs it should be a very behind the scenes job worrying about admin duties and money raising , the only 3 besides current ad Stricklin I can name off top of head are the recently fired UT ad curry after that coaching search debacle ; the lsu ad aliva who is also scene as mostly incompetent and foley and those three have a lot in common and none of that is good
Thecaw, you are right on again. Especially impressed with your take on Coach Spurrier and the FSU thugs. That Dockett incident isn’t forgotten by many of us and Andrews will forever be the the head thug. Foley got so much credit for the efforts of the coaches and players and held us back with inferior facilities. Stricklin seems to be on task with the hire of DM who will no doubt clean house. To bad if he is not polite to sports writers but that in truth is just an incidental part of his job. Thanks Caw for your observations. Good to know that I am not alone in my view of some of the lesser known history and the disrespect by Foley to the Head Ball Coach.
These are some very valid recommendations that reflect what I believe many competent and loyal Gator fans want and expect form Gatorsports.com We need to assess the present with DM not the past. He is very talented and qualified to lead our program. As for the Foley legacy I would opine that he was a disaster when it came to football. The reasons for this include: a) Ego in so far as the Football Coach if successful will always be more important than the AD, and he did not like this b) a Title IX bias towards other sports which reflected a total lack of interest in our football facilities c) A reluctance to recognize when his decisions had failed (see Muschamp).
When the US economy goes through a major Reset, we will all be very happy that DM is our coach. He is the real deal. (my bias and my hope)
Once again, very coherently stated, Ludimeister.
I think I saw many receivers running with their hands up waiving to Franks that they are wide open and then he throws it two yards. I don’t think he was watching what I was watching. A 50-50 ball is a 50-50 ball and hand strength has nothing to do with it since hands do not have a lot of muscle. It is the size of the hand or the will to beat the other guy? I think I was told one time that if you can’t take the ball from the other player…your being lazy.
Of course, the view from above that we often get from TV or the stands shows us things that may not be readily visible at field level, Gary. That said though, I have to agree c you based on Franks height. You’d think he’d see it too!
You are so right Gary. We have receivers, we do not have a qb that can get the ball to them. Why did they sit Allen? Many schools are playing true freshmen like Bama did and are having success. I’m afraid Franks is a bust like Driskel was. DB won’t be afraid to start his new qb or the new running backs. If they are good they won’t be around long anyway. We have new coaches new players and a new attitude. No more excuses or playing up to the media, sorry Dooley, but no mote Mr. nice guy.
Good to have you back and wish for you a good recovery. Be tough but not too much. You can injure your hamstring and you know how hard it is with one of those. No, I am not a doctor but did help with my mother from Starke, who had knee surgery. We teased that she had a therapist from hell.
He neglected football and lesser extent basketball when they were at their peak assuming arrogantly it would always lasts and got cocky , in attempt to establish his legacy as greatest ad ever he went to like on by building up all these sports that with all due respect very few ppl care about , I’m not saying they don’t deserve attention but us boosters pay for football and without football none of this other stuff is even possible so it needs priority 1. While other top programs were building stand alone football complexes and hiring quality coaches we were building multi million dollar gymnastics studios and blowing stuff like that up where now even when money has been raised for new 100 million $ football only complex there’s now no room to build it and it’s delayed at least 4 years but I’m guessing more or even guessing it if even gets built at all. Our indoor practice facility built in a rush and shoddy at best is no where near as cool as bama or fsus. In fact the only reason jim mac was so unliked and so quickly (refreshingly) dumped was because he called them out on all this right away had he played brown nose like muschamp did he’d still be here and dan Mullen at tennesee jim macs mouth and just all out weirdness / self destruction truly saved our program or we’d be in very deep trouble had he just played in house politics like “such a great guy despite losing his mind on the sideline like a rabid dog muschamp ” who recently btw is still firing his offensive coordinator after literally every year
McElwain pushed Stricklin on facilities and he got canned. Kelly also wanted to speed up the facility plan and some firm commitments. He didn’t get it and they mutually parted ways. Lesson learned is never push Stricklin on facilities or you will be history. That’s Stricklin’s responsibility and he doesn’t like anyone lighting a fire under him. If boosters want a say on the coaches and direction of the program, they’ll have to pony up some more “charitable” donations.
A ridiculous statement. If anything, Foley was the one who the money scrimper (view Zook, Muschamp, and McElwain), all cheap, impulse hires. New facilities were already planned and some were in the ground breaking stage, facilities pushed by Muschamp.
Striklin hasn’t even been here long enough to begin organized facility building and planning, so lets give him a another year or so before passing judgement. Not to mention that Striklin’s job is to generate revenue from the athletics programs, especially football, which pays most of the bills through ticket sales, merch sales, t.v. contracts, etc.
Mac didn’t rub Striklin wrong, he rubbed A LOT of people wrong inside the UAA and Boosters. Striklin also gave mac an extension as well as Nussmeier. How is that showing disapproval? Did you know Mac actually interveiewed for the Oregon job after last season before they hired Willie Taggart out there? Mac was already ready to leave and you could see it this last season the way this team fell apart.
Say what one will, but CFB today isn’t like it was 25 to 30 years ago. It’s not about the days of when you could win 8 games, beat a couple of your arch rivals and go into the off-season feeling great about it, it’s a multi-billion dollar business these days and winning at elite, power 5 programs and playing for championships is expected.
Thank God Scott Striklin understands that.
I don’t think we can afford to wait a year or years on facilities. We are so far behind. Chip had the right idea. Maybe he talked to McElwain prior to negotiations to get some insight. Maybe Stricklin fans are afraid to light a fire under him. It’s no longer Foley’s ship and McElwain’s ship to blame. Let’s see what kind of commitment we have from the administration, UAA, and boosters going forward.
Thecaw, until you slow down typing and learn some punctuation, nobody is going to take you serious. And if you don’t think the other sports matter as much as football, then you have bigger issues than the AD.
Lay off Dooley, Caw, get a punctuation program, maybe even install a Prozac lick at your front door…..and you’ll be well on your way to taking some of those embedded good points to the next level. No, seriously man. You’ve got the flair, you’ve obviously got a good mind, you back up what you’re talking about, but I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about due to all the blood shooting out of my eyes while trying to figure out what goes where and which point goes with which other points!
Pat, comments on your #10 point about the roster, etc….
I totally agree that the roster has to be back at 85. It’s like we’ve been playing with self-imposed NCAA probation for almost a decade. I understand about always having at least 82 to 83 on schollie, and maybe a couple of ‘ships left over to reward hard-working walk-ons.
As for WR’s, this group this year outside of Cleveland and Powell was, as nicely as I can put it, horrendous. Wouldn’t block well, gave up on their routes early, dropped balls right in their hands on occasions (seen a few sure TD’s dropped too). Why? Coaching and development, as in, a lack of.
As was Mac’s staff, Mullen’s staff won’t be a “good ole boys club” of pals and buddies he’s just trying to do a favor for and give a job to (Nussmeier, Kent, Nord, etc). Many of these assistants were absolutely confounding hires to me, especially his bizarre loyalty to Nussmeier, who I also said when Mac first hired him would be the worst bust at OC UF has ever seen and would probably make or break Mac. Nuss not only has no professional ability to organize or coordinate an offense, but he literally ruined our QB’s while coaching them. It was obvious Mac hired his pals instead of qualified assistants.
As for the suspended players, I see only 5 returning with Callaway’s early entry into the NFL. Good luck to him, because he could have come back and been coached and developed by someone who knew what they were doing, but all in all, perhaps its better for Callaway to move on. At least we’ll get our two 4* LB’s who were suspended.
That said, I don’t ever want to hear any of our rivals ragging on UF for troublesome players… as we just suspended nine of them for an entire season. fsu fans especially need to keep their mouths shut for now on.
DEAR PAT , please stop living in the past and get over the fact that your guy, CS, who you talked two everyday did not get the job. In fact if I don’t see a push to back DM in every way at the SUN, I will pay for GatorBait247. Please let’s move on and stop writing about things that 99% of all Gators could give a rat’s xxx about, including your play list. Try writing about facts.
The caw…….if you wish for the rest of us to read and take you seriously, please take the advise and suggestion and helpful criticism of your writing style. You make some sense but reading your comments is almost as painful as watching the Gator offense these last 6-7 yrs. If you want to stay angry, read your own posts.
Pat, It has always dumbfounded me how you think you are a coach, and since you think your also a music guru rather than a sports writer, you should transfer to be the beat reporter on local bands, and have Robby transfer to House & Garden as the beat writer checking out X-mas lights and gardens. Happy New Year
Damn, g. I stay on this site especially for the good writing, humor, and commentary, and during the off season I’m not even reading the other Gator sites but for occasionally. Why so rough on these guys?
6: You’re a good Gator, but do you not see the difference in the writings of Kevin Brockway, Edgar Thompson, Mike Bianchi, and Zach Abolverdi, compared to Gomer and Barney?
I suppose, Mark, it’s like everything else–personal preference. Certainly not contending that there are no other good writers out there on other sites–there certainly are. My favorite magazine is American Handgunner, for instance. I like the writing and coverage, the way the topics are discussed, and how they go about it. I also take Combat Handguns and a couple others, they both cover basically the same thing, but I like American Handgunner much more. To the point I’d probably defend it if called up to, which I never have been anyway. In this case, since Gatorsports is my preferred site, I wasn’t really assailing g.KELLY (also a damn good brother Gator) as much as I was just trying to figure out what the beef is and why so many insults thrown at guys I happen to like. Thanks for asking though, now my fingers are so tired I’m really gonna go take a nap! Go Gators, bud.
10. the roster problem I agree with, but with the new receivers coach that should return to being a strength like it was under meyer and spurrier, so I’m actually more upbeat now than before reading the article. I agree we need to give this time. maybe I can roll up all of the Muschamp comments, the foley comments, and some other things into this: people pleasing cant be the way going forward. I know coaches have to recruit, we all are all about media now as a culture, but we cant be giving away what precious chances we have on pleasing someone right at the moment and not taking care of business. so again, give these guys time, so they don’t panic and can do what needs doing, and just being the university of florida is still going to get results if we don’t screw it up.
12. how tim tebow is not an nfl qb to me symbolizes how the league went from standing room only to $5 tickets in empty stadiums. to quote emerson lake and palmer, the Christmas the nfl got they deserved.
14. 17000 attendees for anything not football around here is pretty darn good.
17. sorry pat was out, glad to hear hes going to start tweeting again. I like the tweets from him and Robbie. sure we disagree occcasionally and sometime pat was right!
Solid roll up, mveal, and knocked it out of the park again. 18. I like the way you think, bud.
I wish you guys wrote relevant articles! Unfortunately, I have to go elsewhere to find out what’s going on with Gator football. You would think you guys would at least be covering some of the issues that sites or covering. Yes, some of the issues are rumors, but many of the articles are fact-based. I would love to hear you talk more optimistically about what Mullen is doing.
AMEN, DrG8r, Tell us fact’s and leave the bull crap in the past and the Jim Mac days in the rear view. Face the fact that DM was not your first choice and nor-was he mind, BUT HE IS NOW…..
Wow all of the new recruits would be nice to hear about, and since your on the mend at home maybe try inviting one of the new Asst. Coach’s over for take-out delivery and give us some new future insight. Get well soon Pat?
Pat: Changing the subject to a somewhat national championship size issue, can you please give us a real update on the new proposed baseball stadium. Searching the internet, it appears it will be a new $48 million facility, located somewhere off campus? Thank you ahead of time for an insider update.
Arnold: Thanks! Saw this one the other day. Appears there must be a story behind leaving McKethan Stadium renovation ($30 Mil) for a new $45 mil stadium. I’m sure its a good move. Current Stadium would be tough to change to what the program really deserves. Location selection will be another story.
I would like to know who we are recruiting. Also I truly believe we will win at least 8 games next year with a couple of upsets. Be back on signing day in Feb.
Seems to me that to properly appreciate Dooley, you need to realize that he is more lyrical than analytical. I agree that this robs his stories of being cutting edge, but there are a lot of sources for information if you want to get into x’s and o’s, stats, or up-to-date recruiting dirt.
Pat’s stories are rooted in the region, so there is some homerism going on there, but particularly for those of us who have moved (far) away from Gainesville, his pieces evoke the sleepy town that is part hippie/part redneck, while also host to a huge university and vibrant sports scene, which we left behind.
So, I appreciate Pat, warts and all, but I can understand where his reporting deficiencies can leave some dissatisfied. In that case, move on.
Yup, that’s what I would have said too, alcaveman, but for a few less IQ points and a sharper pencil. Nicely put, I think that’s maybe why Pat reminds me so much of the late Tom McEwen down in Tampa.
The HBC’s receivers were so strong when he was here. Quez, Aubrey Hill, Reidel Anthony. Really powerful guys. We hired a guy who was no better than a Muschamp type of OC. Pro style offense. Couldn’t master the run or the passing game. Be a Finebaum.
To clear it up. I was referring to the former head coach, Jim McElwain in my comment regarding Muschamp’s type of OC. Really hope things get better with Mullen. You can talk about needs at positions but getting a solid staff who can recruit, develop, and do it the right way is what our program needs.