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    • #47356
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      Today being Memorial Day, I’ve come up with an analogy for all Gators to consider. To me, the Ring of Honor is to University of Florida Gators what the Congressional Medal of Honor is to the United States of America.

      Has the USA ever awarded its Congressional Medal of Honor to a pure mercenary? That would be someone who had no prior allegiance to America before joining our military and whose brilliant military exploits for America were accomplished strictly for fame and fortune, before moving on to doing a similar thing for a competing nation? I don’t know, but that wouldn’t seem right to me!

      Steve Spurrier moved on to the NFL and South Carolina in his coaching career. But, SOS was the FIRST Gator Heisman Trophy winner as a player and bleeds orange and blue to this day! His lifelong allegiance to the University of Florida and body of work as a Gator player and coach is more than deserving of membership in the Gator Ring of Honor. Urban Meyer’s body of work as a Gator coach is more impressive than SOS’s, but he has no legitimate allegiance to the University of Florida and never really did.

      If “the” Ohio State University has a Ring of Honor, maybe they should consider putting Urban Meyer on it. At least he was born in Ohio and claims to have carried a buckeye in his pocket for “good luck” when he won BOTH Gator NC’s, before moving on to winning one for Ohio State. He has a more legitimate claim to their Ring of Honor than to ours.

    • #47236
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      Good afternoon fellow Gator fanatics. It is my distinct honor to follow you august gentlemen in extolling the now nearly expired virtues of this once great GS comment section. I was originally drawn to the GS website by the thoroughness of Robbie’s articles, the humorous wit of Pat’s columns and the passionate banter of many in Gator Nation that enthusiastically followed and responded to both and to each other.

      I guess all good things must come to an end. With the near death of fan commentary on this site on account of the surprise pay wall thrown up last August and the likely delay, if not the complete demise of a promising Gator 2020 football season, there is really not much point in keeping this comatose website on life support much longer.

      Hopefully some day, this once vibrant website will be replaced by another equally worthy of Gator Nation’s passionate involvement. Until then, so long good friends. It was fun while it lasted!

    • #47224
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      Yes gents, I already know your opinions on this topic. I seek others, however rare they may be nowadays.

      BTW, we know Dooley’s opinion on the start of college football as well. He made it the first topic of his April 28 Back Nine column, however difficult it may be to find it on this site now. Here’s a link to it in case you’re curious:

      The Back Nine: A revamped college football schedule for you

    • #46973
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      Amen brother Gator!

      Yesterday, as China reported just 55 new cases, they ordered ALL their movie theaters to close until further notice. Those two actions are not compatible.

    • #46966
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      Fear is not rational. The nation is spooked. And our ruling class doesn’t mean us well (President Trump and a handful of others excluded.) That’s a recipe for some very bad potential outcomes.

      There appears to be all kinds of testing capacity available for a week, maybe longer, yet we have only identified 120,000 positive cases in a nation of 327 million. If this virus is as contagious as demonstrated to be, there should be a million identified cases in NY alone. Why aren’t they doing more testing and reporting results by now? Could it be that more positive test results will lower the scary mortality rate down to something close to the annual flu?

      There appears to be a combination of safe antiviral drugs that both cure and act as prophylaxis against this virus, yet the CDC and FDA are holding back recommending their widespread use to treat the substantial number of serious cases in NY and other hot spots. Why? People are dying! Could it be that more deaths of elderly and other unhealthy people boost the mortality rate and give the media more fodder to keep people scared and the US economy out of commission that much longer?

      The next two weeks will tell the tale on whether the republic recovers from this crisis, or just gets consumed by it.

    • #46953
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      Folks, COVID-19 is a HIGHLY contagious virus. Anywhere people congregate and even one person in the group is infected, others WILL get infected as a result of being in proximity. There is no practical way to resume sporting events and NOT spread this virus. Even if the competitions are held in empty venues, there is no way to keep the athletes, coaches and support personnel from coming in close contact with each other and if even only one of them is infected going in…

      The above means that so long as we don’t modify our “social distancing” rules AND there are even a few cases being reported anywhere in each state, we CAN’T resume sporting events, air travel, bus travel, train travel, eating out at restaurants, drinking at bars, holding parties, reopening schools, etc, etc. Without modification, those rules will absolutely KILL our economy, with all the suffering and death commensurate with THAT outcome. It’s only a matter of when, NOT if.

      So, is America ready to set aside our irrational fear fear of this virus and modify our rules? My guess is that we’re not there YET. And our national media is going to do their even best to put that date off as long as possible. Too many scared eyeballs are tuning in to their breathless on-air reporting, or scared fingers clicking on their websites.

    • #47232
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      Sly, FREEDOM is all about being FREE to accept whatever level of risk is tolerable to each individual citizen in their own “pursuit of happiness.” That is what the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution established for us and why the United States is so different from ALL other nations in the history of mankind.

      It is up to EACH individual business owner, regardless of size and lobbying power, to decide whether to open for business and what rules of “social distancing” to enforce in their establishment. It is up to EACH individual ADULT citizen to decide whether to leave their home, whether to wear a mask, or how far to stand away from other people. It is up to other ADULTS out there to shame the non-conformists into more socially acceptable behavior.

      This virus is VERY contagious. Most people who venture out of their homes WILL most likely be exposed to it, regardless of what protective measures they or their government officials take to prevent it. Most who get infected will not notice, some will get sick and fewer still will sadly succumb to this desease.

      That is the way of life as long as humans and viruses have inhabited the earth. And there may NEVER be an effective vaccine against this virus, regardless of what any of the so called experts tell us on TV about its development and clinical trials. AIDS sufferers are STILL waiting for an effective vaccine… after 35 years!!!

      So, again I’ll ask, how long will we LOGICALLY delay the start of this college football season??? I know November 7th, as one columnist on this site has suggested, only makes LOGICAL sense if the motives are purely political.

    • #47013
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      Joe, the “actual” coronavirus infection rate will never be known. There will never be enough testing done to determine that. However, the CDC has a protocol in place to “estimate” the number of infection cases that includes those “probable” cases that never show up at a hospital, or get tested.

      In 2009, according to CDC, the first confirmed case of H1N1 (Swine) Flu was reported on April 15 in California. By April 25, the WHO had declared H1N1 “a public health emergency of international concern.” By April 28, the FDA had approved a CDC test to detect H1N1. By May 4, the CDC shifted from reporting “confirmed” cases of 2009 H1N1 to reporting BOTH “confirmed and probable” cases of 2009 H1N1. The final estimate of “confirmed and probable” cases of H1N1 was over 60 million.

      Coronavirus has already been confirmed to be more infectious than H1N1. On March 13, the FDA approved the Roche test for coronavirus. Today, April 4, we have over 307,000 “confirmed” cases in the US. We are STILL WAITING for CDC to shift from reporting just “confirmed” cases to reporting BOTH “confirmed and probable” cases… WHY???

      Remember, the mortality rate is calculated by dividing the number of “confirmed deaths” by the number of “confirmed and probable” cases. As long as the number of reported “probable” cases remains at ZERO, the mortality rate will remain artificially high.

    • #46980
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      Yes, it is GREAT to be a Florida Gator!!!

    • #46975
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      Then, why does our media believe them and publish their propaganda as though it’s gospel? Of course, that question was rhetorical.

    • #46922
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      I believe CDM and staff didn’t have much choice during the first couple of recruiting cycles at UF. The recruiting game has turned into a long-term process, where coaches develop relationships with recruits that often go back to middle school. Such relationships for CDM at MSU were rarely with blue chip players because MSU stood little chance of landing most of those.

      When CDM was hired by UF, he initially had to settle for recruiting the blue chip players that didn’t already have strong bonds with the schools they would ultimately sign with. You have to admit, there’s a reason most of those players didn’t already have strong bonds with a particular program. Academic deficiency is certainly one of those reasons and it showed up in the number of CDM signees that never qualified academically.

      Fortunately, that handicap is fading fast. The 2020 recruiting class will have fewer academic washouts and the 2021 class might not have any at all.

    • #46841
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      Thanks for that answer Graham. It adds context to the relative recruiting success of some programs over others. Extreme opposite examples are Alabama and Vandy.

      There’s more to recruiting success than relative academic standards. However, when we get into the top 10, or even top 5 recruiting classes, any significant factor yielding advantage to one program over another can affect final class rankings. That may be why we hear Gator 2021 class recruits regularly mention that CDM and staff have been pushing UF’s top 10 ranking in BOTH football and academics. CDM is trying to attract the blue chip recruits that are also interested in academics. If pursued hard every year in the recruiting process, that strategy should turn a potentials handicap into a selling point and yield a more coachable squad with fewer trouble makers.

    • #46595
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      To be clear, I’m referring ONLY to football recruits, NOT to general academic student admission standards.

    • #46594
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      The answer to this question will ALWAYS have a bearing on where Gator recruiting classes will rank relative to those other three programs, or for that matter where they’ll rank relative to the Semis!

    • #46583
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      I understand we shouldn’t generalize based on sample sizes of one or two. However, given the Gators’ obvious need of safeties in the 2021 recruiting class, I find it incomprensible that James Williams of Opa Locka, FL hasn’t even shown interest checking them out. That was one powerful sell job he got from Kirby Smart!

      Terrance Lewis of Hollywood, FL fits another Gator position of need at OLB in 2021. He at least has been listening to the Gators and is now favorably disposed to committing to play at UF.

      Does UF have higher academic admission standards than Alabama, UGA and LSU?

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