Time for drastic change on offense……

This topic contains 59 replies, has 21 voices, and was last updated by  gator67 7 months ago.

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  • #23712

    gatorhart
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    SOS, new OC……..he could settle this team down and provide leadership, intelligence and some sort of identity instead of The Three Stooges meet Abbot and Costello!

    Do it NOW! This is a disaster to watch.

    Class of 73

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  • #23724

    vulcan_alex
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    Past time, I also graduated in 73 and saw some pitiful teams.

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    • #23865

      Gary
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      Back at you gatorhart. Ditto on class of 73. We had some mediocrity then, but this is almost pitiful.

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  • #23732

    UFever
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    Get better or GTFO.

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  • #23741

    Gary
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    Get used to it Gator faithful. Mr. No Socks is here to stay as football has become an afterthought in Gainesville. Just in case somebody cares about the pigskin program in the UAA….may be a good idea to invest in a strength and conditioning program and USE IT. Just sayin.

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  • #23743

    BSJGator
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    To say it’s time for a drastic change implies we have an offense to begin with. I saw very little out there yesterday that indicates we had/have an offense…

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  • #23751

    Swamp Donkey
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    Nusschump runs Butterteeth’s offense. Nusschump is one of Butters’ former QBs, and his hand picked protege. I don’t know why you think changing Nusschump changes Butters’ offense any more than changing QBs for Will Dawgchump ever changed anything.

    Butterteeth is hyper conservative. In the biggest game of his career, he lost 9-6 at LSU. He is going to take safe routes (screens, 9 routes only with 1 high looks) and conservative runs. It is who he is. I don’t know what you people thought we were getting when we inked this guy to a contract.

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  • #23856

    mtn2top
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    I’m not giving up on these guys. The Michigan defense was a tough first game for our offense. Our defense also had some lapses.

    We were a five point underdog going into the game. We may not play for the National Championship this season, but we have a competitive team.

    I’ve got mixed feeling about the Tainted Ten. We all make mistakes. How much difference would it have made to have more than a 10th of the team play?

    Let’s all move on from this loss and lesson constructively. Drastic changes are not needed at this time. The team will have this week to work things out before a romp in the Swamp with Northern Colorado.

    It’s too bad this game won’t be a home and away. That would bring the Gators to Colorado!

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    • #23875

      vulcan_alex
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      I agree other than the highly disrespectful name that this poster insists on using.

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  • #23863

    SovietGator
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    Don’t hold your breath on the offense improving – ever. The stats simply don’t lie…

    Under Nussmeir/McElwain the enemic Gator offense has never cracked the FBS Top 100 since they got here. The Gators offense was ranked 112th in 2015, 116th in 2016, and after one game into the 2017 season, we are now ranked 121st. FYI, there are only 128 schools in the FBS…

    When Nussmeir was the OC at Michigan in 2014, his offense was again ranked outside the Top 100 in the FBS. Go look at all the stops Nussmeir has made as a QB Coach or OC since 2008, and you will see that all of those schools made a big improvement in their offense once he left, and they all shot way up the FBS 100 list.

    At UF, the Nussmeir/McElwain offense has been ranked DEAD LAST in the SEC the two years they have been here. It will be ranked dead last for the 2017 season as well, because Nussmeir/McElwain – are in way over their heads at UF. Neither one knows how to make half time adjustments, and the stats clearly show they cannot develop and improve an offense on this large of a scale. Nussmeir’s play calling is amateurish and far too predictable.

    The short success they enjoyed at Bama was simply due to the program, system, Saban & Staff, and the ridiculous talent that Bama enjoys.

    Nussmeir/McElwain both got huge raises and contract extensions this past off season. Sound familiar? UF (Foley) made the same boneheaded moved with Muschamp. So UF has not improved on offense, we have actually regressed to worse than Muschamp 2.0

    http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21/p3

    The Gators are 0-6 vs FSU, Bama, and Michigan under Jim McElwain. And in those six games, UF only had 70 total points, 35 of which were scored by the defense and special teams! Zook and Muschamp had better offenses while at UF.

    It’s going to be fun watching the rest of the season and listening to the evasive BS coach speak that McElwain uses in his pressers. He’s no different than Muschamp. McElwain simply isn’t a CEO (that’s what it takes to operate & win at UF, like Meyer & Spurrier) and he blames everything on the players, strength coach, or whoever. And he says folksy BS like ‘they were bigger & stronger than us’. No self accountability, just like Muschamp. Aall the while, the Gator ship is sinking.

    McElwain better hope he beats South Carolina and Muschamp, or he’s gonna feel the heat Muschamp/Foley felt in 2014. We’ve been duped again. Thankfully, SOS is in the building and ready to take over as interim HC and/or AD once McElwain is fired in 2018.

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    • #23874

      gatorhart
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      Soviet, BULLS EYE! Simply no excuse for last “performance”. Hopefully this is the last year for excuses, blame, incompetence, ignorance, lack of mgt talent, game time decision making and running this program into the ground….again! Eat your peanut butter and jelly sandwiches at a division 11 school next year! BTW, you can catch this weeks game on a streaming network.

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      • #23896

        Gary
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        Spot on Soviet. Mr. NoSocks never points the finger at his own staff or himself. But the sad truth is all of this is falling on deaf ears. Stricklin and the UAA are not going to make any changes anywhere. There are fannies in the seats and T shirts are selling. Until both of those drop, nothing will happen. The product stinks but it is still being sold. Simple economics.

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        • #23944

          SovietGator
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          Yup, we are stuck with these two clowns (Mac and Nuss) until 2018 at best.

          The same exact thing will happen with McElwain that occurred with Muschamp and his pitiful demise. I called the Muschamp failure/fraud a good year before he tanked. Foley and Stricklin both are screwing the pooch. The new Prez isn’t Lombardi or Machen either.

          UF is fixing to hit a decade long skid just like Miami did, Michigan (under Hoke & Rich Rod), Texas (under Mack Brown), and LSU (under Hallman & DiNardo). We may not recover from it either. UF will be just like UCLA and Stanford, great in academics and all athletic sports except for football.

          We will be the new Vandy. Missouri just joined the SEC not long ago, and their offense is ranked #1 in the SEC. Florida is ranked dead last. That’s just embarrassing & pitiful. McElwain and Nussmeir should be ashamed and run out of town.

          Richt and Miami are fixing to pass us by. FSU did it when Tebow, Meyer, Mullen left in 2010. The greatest offensive mind in college football is sitting in a broom closet of an office in BHG stadium, and those two clowns Mac and Nuss can’t even execute a high school offense or produce more yardage than Vandy or Kentucky.

          The UAA could save a ton of money by just making Spurrier both AD and HC. I never thought I’d miss a Ron Zook offense, much less a Muschamp offense. Hell, I miss Galen Hall’s offense.

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          • #23952

            vulcan_alex
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            I somewhat disagree, we are down on attendance. When or if the Bull Gators insist on change and are willing to pay the buy out then he will be gone, but to do that you would need a credible alternative that would be an improvement. Not paying millions to start over with basically the same risk.

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        • #23946

          SovietGator
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      • #23945

        SovietGator
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        We are stuck with them until at least 2018 I’m afraid, unless Mac has a meltdown like Muschamp did. And there’s high probability of that happening as the heat begins to build on Mac & Stricklin. He’s never felt the pressure he’s fixing to feel, especially if he loses to Muschamp and South Carolina.

        Stricklin (brought to UF by Foley) just signed McElwain to an idiotic huge contract extension and raise. And during the off season, McElwain gave his best friend Doug Nussmeir a huge contract extension and raise ($540K to $832K). Neither of them deserve it, and it was done for recruiting purposes to show stability in the program when there is none.

        I’m so sick of all of the ‘bad luck’ and ‘bad play’ being blamed on the carousel QB’s and weak/soft O-Lines that UF has gone through since Tebow/Mullen/Meyer left in 2010. Look at the Gators offensive stats since 2010 and tell me if you see any progress or player development whatsoever.

        Then go look at all the stops Nussmeir has made as a QB Coach or OC since 2008, and you will see that all of those schools made a big improvement in their offense once he left, and they all shot way up the FBS 100 list.

        Supposedly, none of those carousel QB’s were good enough to play at UF. Yet Will Grier, Jacoby Brissett, Jeff Driskel, and Tyler Murphy all had success at the schools they transferred too once they left UF. Brissett, Driskel, and Murphy are now in the NFL, but they were ‘bums’ when they were at UF.

        Another supposed ‘bum’ and ex-UF QB Treon Harris, won the game for Tenn State last Saturday. None of those QB’s were ever the problem at UF. It was the amateurish, predictable, crap offenses run by Muschamp and McElwain/Nussmeir; and horrible talent evaluation, recruiting, coaching, and development when it comes to the O-Line and QB’s.

        Neither Mac or Nuss knows how to make proper half time adjustments, and the stats clearly show they cannot develop and improve an offense on this large of a scale.

        Our offense shows absolutely no blitz or hot read recognition, and very poor execution by all, especially the QB’s which are supposed to be McElwain’s specialty. Just like Muschamp, McElwain and Nussmeir are stubborn and far too predictable (the fatal flaw of MANY coaches), and in way over their heads. Nussmeir is telegraphing our plays through a combo of formation, player package, and stubborn predictability (no halftime adjustments).

        Mac and Nuss’ old boss Saban read them like a book in the SECCG the last two years in Atlanta. All any opposing coach has to do, is watch our game film versus Bama in the last two SECCG’s to see how to shut us down offensively. Its easy, especially since Nussmeir doesn’t make great half time adjustments. Our stellar defensive talent & special teams play has kept us in all these games the last two seasons under McElwain. And they backed into the two SEC East Championships because the East is so weak, and has been since Meyer left in 2010.

        The success Mac and Nuss had at Bama was simply due to the program, system, Saban & Staff, and the ridiculous talent that Bama enjoys.

        Its gonna be fun watching how this season plays out…

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  • #23891

    mtn2top
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    There’s a lot of football left in this season.

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    • #23932

      Swamp Donkey
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      Mtn, old friend (law here), I’ve seen 28 episodes of this series. I think I have a feel for what’s coming next. I envy your optimism, but my brain can’t overcome my heart like that.

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  • #23897

    mkfgator
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    Michigan looked faster and stronger because maybe they were, but it sure looked like they knew where we were going before we went there. This team is very predictable. No counters, traps, misdirections, slants. No rhythm on offense or pace. No hurry up or even change of pace. In short, we only try to throw a fastball and in the same location. No different location and no curve ball or change up. Even the pass plays are no change up to the run plays. It puts too much pressure on the O to be stronger and faster instead of smarter. Let’s face it too, when was the last time we were in a position to audible? When was the last time a QB after Tebow was asked to comment on a sports talk show? We are not the smartest team in American and we can’t make adjustments on the fly. We need to get smarter–which goes back to coaching. I have hopes we will get better and soon. I like Felipe. Stick with him. I see no one behind him, except running Louisville’s offense with Toney.

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  • #23951

    Black Dahlia
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    A new HC would be a good start. It might not be a bad idea to get a new AD at this point, either.

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  • #23955

    rleaton2
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    If Coach Mac loses to Tennessee then I expect the hot water to reach boiling…will be no need to keep this guy on any longer. Muschamp was allowed to hang around a year past the date he should have been fired…don’t let it happen again!

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  • #23959

    Sly Sylvester
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    If you focus on stats, the offense looks bad but they didn’t get as many drives in as Michigan. The two pick 6’s in the second quarter kept the offense off the field while the defense stayed on the field for 3 consecutive drives. To start the second half, UM got the ball while UF lost a fumble on it’s subsequent kickoff return and then fumbled again in it’s first set of downs. Again the defense played practically 4 straight back-to-back drives. After that, the defense was gassed and gave up chunks of yards. Zaire came on trying to make something happen playing from behind. That’s not on the coaches.

    Still, We were still in the game going into the 4th quarter down by 9. If Thompson’s TD hadn’t been called back due a holding penalty, who knows what might have happened. The game wasn’t out of reach until Zaire fumbled and giving up a touchdown with 1:37 remaining.

    Zaire and Franks had as many carries (13) as the RB’s (13). Half of those QB carries were sacks. Maybe the OL could have blocked better or maybe the QB’s could have thrown it away earlier. Two of Michigan’s best returning players were on their DL and that may have something to do with it. Nuss didn’t call very many runs up the middle against a stacked box as many have assumed just from reading the horrible running stats. That stat is horrible because of the sacks.

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  • #23966

    SovietGator
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    They say stats are for losers, but so are excuses and throwing players under the bus. You have to focus on the stats to understand the State of the Gator Nation. The stats didn’t lie with Zook or Muschamp, and they don’t lie now.

    This is Muschamp 2.0 all over again. Everyone made tons of the same excuses for Muschamp (its the players/talent, recruiting, coaches, injuries, bad luck, Urban’s fault, etc) all the while the stats and horrible on field game play (on offense) and coaching decisions showed he was running the program into the ground. And that was despite Muschamp’s nonsensical coach speak (we’ll get it corrected), lies, blame, throwing players under the bus, saying weird crap, etc.

    The Gator Nation is now going through the same thing with McElwain and Nussmeir. They are both supposed to be QB and Offense gurus, but they are simply no better on offense than Muschamp and Zook (defensive specialists) were. There has been ZERO improvement in the Gator offense since Urban Meyer left in 2010. We are now in a seven year slump…

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI0BUgKUQAA1WMU.jpg:large

    So much of the Gator woes for the last seven years have been blamed on all the ‘bum’ carousel QB’s that have passed through Gainesville since 2010. Almost all of those QB’s that left UF, went onto play elsewhere in the NCAA and NFL.

    The stats show Nussmeir’s offenses have been complete garbage everywhere he’s been with the exception of Alabama. Nussmeir’s offenses are consistently ranked outside the FBS Top 100. As in, near the bottom of the list, as he averages about 113th out of 127 teams in the FBS.

    Nussmeir had brief success at Bama simply because of the program, the talent, the staff, and Nick Freaking Saban.

    I bleed Orange & Blue, but the McElwain Experience will end up just like the Zook and Muschamp Experiences did. Its only a matter of time. McElwain is a fraud and in way over his head. He’s not HC material at UF. Foley gave us Zook, Muschamp, and McElwain. Three different hires with the exact same results.

    Of course at the rate the Gators are going, McElwain will be on our level as we are fixing to enter a ten year slump just like Texas (under Brown & Strong), Miami (under Shannon & Golden), Michigan (under Hoke & Rich Rod), Penn State (under JoePa), and LSU (under Hallman & DiNardo) did.

    The thing is, its a different era in the NCAA and SEC now, so the Gators won’t bounce back from it so quickly. The SEC East Champion Participation Trophies the last two seasons were nice, but they don’t mean squat and Saban outright owned McElwain and Nussmeir in those games.

    It will be hilarious if South Carolina and Muschamp beat the Gators. The training wheels will come of the bike really fast if that happens. Possible losses to UGA, UT, A&M, Mizzou, and FSU will be the nail in the coffin. We’ll have to pray for our defense to keep us in those games.

    This is McELwain’s make or break season. So don’t expect anything different. However, the future may look bright, as I heard McElwain has the commitment of a 5 Star QB recruit for 2018 named Claribelle. Hope she’s as good as Tebow. 😉

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-mcelwain-i-believe-i-can-win-with-my-dog-claribelle-playing-qb/

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  • #23974

    SoCalGator83
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    I share your frustration but I don’t see a change in a HBC this year even if it plays out disastrously this season. Muschamp went 4-8 in his 3rd year.
    Chip Kelly will be signed at year’s end by another team and there are plenty who will come knocking but it won’t be Florida.
    As for anything different, the coaching staff needs to earn their paychecks and be able to make adjustments. Something this coaching staff has been unable to do thus far. It’s inexcusable to say “the plan was pretty much foiled by getting physically whooped”. Not to take away anything from Michigan, but it clearly shows a lack of preparation and no Plan B to counter and put your team in a position to win.

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  • #23977

    rleaton2
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    Agree…however one would hope we learned a lesson from Muschump record. He should have been let go at 4-8 as we would have saved another year of losing. How many years are we going to be pushed back with this clown! BTW I trust everyone is aware the D.J.Durkin, the Gator defensive coordinator who we passed over for the head coaching job, is now 2-0 at Maryland and simply ran over UCF and Minnesota. ( I think his team was prepared)

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  • #24034

    mtn2top
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    This type of early season negativity never helps the coach or team. Who in their right mind is going to fire a coach who has won the division the past two seasons, after the first OC game?

    That’s destructive – not constructive criticism. I question the motives for some of these people spending so much time here tearing down the coaches and the Florida program.

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    • #24213

      gatordad
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      You are touching on what can be a huge problem. We have been carried by a top shelf defense for a long time. What happens when we can’t recruit the D because the Offense is so bad? We’ve got to right the ship before we have bigger problems

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  • #24041

    Black Mamba
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    Mrs. McElwain, I mean mtn2top, shouldn’t you fix Jim a pb&j and not be posting on message boards?

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  • #24044

    rleaton2
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    I’ve been through it all, seen it all; if you are satisfied with mediocracy then just stay the course! However if the ship is sinking you need to take action asap to save the program! This is McElwain’s third year…how long does he need before we acknowledge he is captain of the Titanic.

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    • #24048

      Jabberdave
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      You’ve seen, like…..everything?

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      • #24059

        rleaton2
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        Pretty much…I am 78…my grandfather played in the very first collegiate game the Gators every played (1906 vs Rollins….Gators won 6-0) Graduated from UF and have followed them since well before you were born…like I said, as far as the Gators go, I’ve seen it all!

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  • #24049

    Sly Sylvester
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    I’m sure the AD and President are smart enough to recognize when it’s time for a change. The coaches’ record, body of work, bad losses, fan expectations, etc. will dictate their course of action. It will be clearly evident to anyone with intelligence as someone in their position must have. They don’t need the “noise” in the system to tell them what to do and when to do it. The time to make a change is not during the season and certainly not after one game. That’s why you never see an AD panic and signal possible changes until close to the end of the season. They will always voice their support until such a time. All the noise in the system does is hurt team morale and recruiting. That’s why I’m suspicious of the motives of any self proclaimed Gator fan who incessantly hammer the coaches and the outlook of the program. All it does is hurt the team that they supposedly love. That’s like publicly criticizing and humiliating your significant other. You just don’t do it because it’s not the wise thing to do. If I feel it’s time for a change, I will be the first to voice it at the end of the season, not before.

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    • #24108

      Jabberdave
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      Much respect, sir. May you be around to see many more titles.

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  • #24052

    gator67
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    There are some who have been vehemently (and irrationally) opposed to Mac since he was hired. He was not a big name, so the hiring did not make a big splash — as if that were the primary consideration in choosing a coach. It is also apparent to me that some dislike him simply because he comes across as too folksy or has large, yellow teeth, or some other such superficial nonsense. To my mind, this is quite shallow, not to mention unfair.

    I don’t know whether he will succeed, but I am firmly convinced that it is too soon to draw conclusions. He has started to have real success in recruiting, in spite of the noise in the system, which helps no one. Of course, if the offense continues to struggle to the same degree that it did against Michigan, he may not be able to keep some of the current recruits. On the other hand, Michigan may well have the best defense the Gators will face all season, so I am not willing to decide that all is lost at this point. If the offense does start to improve and show signs of life, I can’t help but wonder whether this would disappoint the Mac-haters. For some, the prime concern seems to be getting rid of him.

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  • #24053

    Black Mamba
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    I had no questions in supporting Coach Mac until he signed Nussmeier & Nord to two year contract extensions and gave them both raises right before the season. Then we had the disaster 2 weeks ago against Michigan, and he lost it at that point. It’s apparent to everyone, including Stevie Wonder, that Nussmeier is not capable of putting a competent offense together no matter where he’s been. I’d say that 3 years with a triple digit offense rating should be enough to know that Mac/Nuss are not going to turn this program around.

    The difference between Mac & Saban is that Mac is happy just to get a W and Saban sees the W and what needs to be improved to get the RING. UF should have a coach that wants a Ring, not just a skin of the teeth W. Winning the East while its down is a joke and deserves no good will credit.

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    • #24057

      rleaton2
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      I think you can lay the raises at the foot of the new AD..Scott Stricklin! His first action out of the box is a bust!

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  • #24056

    g8tr76
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    Folks, it’s Game 2 (or 3)! I would like to see some offense and even though it didn’t happen with michigan, it might happen Saturday in The Swamp. It’s not like we are playing um again we are playing ut. Their fans have to put the wheels on their trailers just to get here!

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    • #24073

      amber7
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      Big difference is ..their trailers aren’t flooded

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  • #24060

    gator67
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    I was under the impression that Mac’s third year here has just begun. And we already know the offense will rank in the triple digits? Not prejudging much are we?

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    • #24089

      Black Mamba
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      the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results, so there’s that. 😉

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  • #24067

    mtn2top
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    I’d love to sit down and have a PB&J or a beer with Coach Mac. He knows the expectation for success that comes with his title and pay.

    The question is, what is a reasonable amount of time to be given to affect an offensive turn-around? You’re living in a distorted reality if you think a
    third-year coach who won the division twice will be sent packing after losing the first game of the season as an underdog to a top twenty team.

    I don’t buy into any campaign of despair, hopelessness and defeat concerning the Florida coaches, team and season.

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    • #24088

      Black Mamba
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      I don’t think he will be, I think he should be. He’s not going to win championships at UF.
      I’m not even saying he should be fired today, but his long term prognostication is not good.

      I believe that he’ll be the head coach @ UF starting next season.

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      • #24101

        rleaton2
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        Depends on what happens the rest of the year…starting this Saturday

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  • #24092

    TheMexican
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    Amigos,

    All they need a is ride in a Miata, a pinata, and a mariachi band to get them in a good mood.

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    • #24114

      Sly Sylvester
      Participant

      I agree. Time to switch from hurricanes to margaritas.

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  • #24104

    Jabberdave
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    Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let’s not bicker and argue over who killed who.

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  • #24158

    SovietGator
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    Welp, the offense may not be fixed but thank goodness for defense & special teams, The Swamp, and Butch Jones! That and the SEC East sucking since 2010. Wasn’t that cool?

    GO GATORS!

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  • #24160

    rleaton2
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    I think we found ourselves a quarterback!

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    • #24162

      SovietGator
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      Oh yeah, Franks has an NFL All-Pro arm without question. He just needs some more work on his foot speed and coordination in the pocket. That and keep learning on the job until he and Nussmeir face a real defense against LSU and South Carolina.

      Kids played their hearts out today for many reasons, and they deservedly won it on the field with some help. That was destiny there.

      Its always fun to rip the hearts out of the VOLS in such a way. But its better when we are ranked in the Top 10.

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      • #24195

        rleaton2
        Participant

        SovietGator: Real defense…LSU..South Carolina???? Better go back to watching hockey SovietGator…Both those teams were shredded yesterday!

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        • #24199

          SovietGator
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          True, they both looked like dog crap last night, just like we did 2 weeks ago. Its a long season, and both those teams will get better. LSU went into that game last night believing all their undeserved BS hype, and faced a much better team and coach, and got whipped. Orgeron is a horrible coach and LSU’s 2-deep talent is the worst its been since 2013, which helps us when we play in a few weeks.

          Mullen, man I wish we had him here. He’s gonna build a juggernaut at MSU (though he won’t be there much longer, a smart Top 5 power program will steal him away) now that Ole Piss is rid of that cheater Hugh Freeze.

          The East is going to be wild this year. Mizzou bombed last night, and UK looked good. It really hurt SC (and will help us) that they lost Deebo in the 3rd QTR due to a broken leg, as that kid is a stud. Jury is still out on UGA.

          The awesome game winning TD that Franks threw was the ONLY pass completion he had the ENTIRE GAME that was over 12 yards. Pass yardage and offensive production like that will definitely win the SEC.

          And I’m talking about actually beating – or at least competing with – Bama, not getting a participation trophy for backing into and winning the crappy East.

          Butch Jones and McElwain were clueless on the sidelines the entire game. I’m glad Jones chose not to run that kid Kelly more than he did, especially on those 4 straight plays inside the red zone or when our D was gassed due to having to bail out the offense for most of the game. That was idiotic on Jones’ part and fortuitous for McElwain.

          Spurrier wasn’t lying when he said god smiles on the Gators. 😉

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          • #24212

            rleaton2
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            At least 50% of the credit for the win goes to Butch Jones…. I really hope they don’t fire the guy. He gives us a sure win every year !

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        • #24200

          SovietGator
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          The UF – Vandy game should be really good. Traditionally, they play us very close even during our SEC and National Championship years.

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  • #24211

    gatordad
    Participant

    I’m excited to see Franks get a confidence building play under his belt that will (hopefully) drive him to lead this offense. I got the impression in the interview that Coach Mac was as surprised as we were. I loved watching that awesome TD pass but I’m not convinced that these are the days of wine and roses. Maybe now we can quit playing musical QBs and focus on what it takes to make them winners.

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  • #24214

    gator67
    Participant

    It is pretty clear that Franks has the potential to be a great qb, but the rest of the offense has to step up. The offensive line was better in this game than against Michigan. Then again, it was facing a less talented unit. It must continue to improve. The backs need to learn how to pick up the blitz and hold on to the ball. And Franks needs to improve his accuracy (he threw high too often against Tennessee).

    I thought the playcalling was much better in the Tennessee game than against Michigan. It could stand to be even more creative, I think, but that may require more out of the offensive line than we have seen so far. As Franks gets more experience and improves, and the o-line gels a bit more, maybe the playcalling can open up even more.

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  • #24220

    mtn2top
    Participant

    Offense needs a lot of work. Still not seeing the level of execution one would expect in year three.

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    • #24228

      gator67
      Participant

      I agree with this. In my mind, the offense sputtered in the last game because of execution rather than play calling. There was a nice mix of plays, but the execution often failed.

      Perhaps the biggest problem was turnovers. Perine made a very nice gain that could have been the start to a good drive, but he fumbled the ball away. Not only did this kill the drive, but it put the defense back on the field after only a single play by the offense. Then Davis fumbled the ball just before crossing the goal line, putting the defense back on the field after only a couple of plays. That took 7 points away, forced a tiring defense to try to stop the Vols again, and gave the other side momentum that carried them down the field. Holding on to the ball in that situation would have meant a 20-3 lead, some wind taken out of the sails of the Vols, and an energizing boost for the Gators. Finally, holding on to a 20-17 lead, the Vols get a short field to set up a field goal when Franks threw an int. Ball security would have meant a very different game, including more yardage for the offense. Davis would also have been one of the stars of the game instead of a potential goat.

      There is a lot of work that the Gators still need to do on their offense (and defense, as well, I would say). But there is reason to hope that as Franks improves so will the rest of that unit.

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      • #24339

        mtn2top
        Participant

        The offense should carry Franks, not the other way around. That’s exactly what is needed for the offense to improve quickly and dramatically.

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        • #24342

          gator67
          Participant

          You make a good point. It may be, however, that it will have to be some of both. Franks certainly can’t do it alone, but he also needs to start finding the open receivers on a consistent basis. I think there’s a good chance that he will.

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  • #24251

    DrG8r
    Participant

    I, too, have found the offense predictably awful! However, the play calling against Tennessee was better. I believe the offense is growing up before our eyes, but only time will tell if Franks develops as fast as Will Grier did after UT. I recall that Nussmeier and McElwain were having success in 2015 with a QB (Grier) who was really developing fast. So, this gives me hope!

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